which team returns to glory first? USC or Miami?

DerekJohnson

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Doogles

Washington.

TierbsHsotBoobs

Alabama

Tequilla

Given current coaching ... I'd say Mismi has the better chance at getting close to elite again (won't happen under Richt until he leaves) ...

As for USC, I'm hearing that the upcoming edition of the TSIO podcast will have a few thoughts on Clay Helton

doogsinparadise

Nice source.

bananasnblondes

A better question would be, "Who fires their coach first? USC or Miami?"

Baseman

USC: Outside of Stanford, the Pac-12 is shit and USC still draws elite talent. Helton isn't elite by any means but appears far more stable than SC's last two morons.

Tequilla

Baseman said:

USC: Outside of Stanford, the Pac-12 is shit and USC still draws elite talent. Helton isn't elite by any means but appears far more stable than SC's last two morons.

That's a ringing endorsement of Helton if I've ever heard one

RaceBannon

Cuogs

Ice_Holmvik

USC

It may not be under Helton but USC is generally a recruiting juggernaut. Miami has stadium, location and facility issues and no $$$ for an immediate fix. Helton appears to be taking a Chris Petersen approach at USC. Hard to tell if he has the eye for talent and the ability to develop kids like CP does. Not to mention the fact that instilling that culture at USC will be bucked hard by players and boosters alike. USC traditionally has a flashy Sark like vibe. We have seen how hard it was to change that culture here. Imagine how much harder that would be at USC. But I still take the Trojans over the Hurricanes. Too many built in advantages long term to overlook.

Ice_Holmvik

Oh and whoever wrote that shit is worse than Derek at proof reading. I've seen WSU posters have less grammatical errors.

DerekJohnson

Ice_Holmvik said:

Oh and whoever wrote that shit is worse than Derek at proof reading. I've seen WSU posters have less grammatical errors.

What are you talking about?

TierbsHsotBoobs

Ice_Holmvik said:

Oh and whoever wrote that shit is worse than Derek at proof reading. I've seen WSU posters have less grammatical errors.

*fewer

Baseman

Ice_Holmvik said:

USC

It may not be under Helton but USC is generally a recruiting juggernaut. Miami has stadium, location and facility issues and no $$$ for an immediate fix. Helton appears to be taking a Chris Petersen approach at USC. Hard to tell if he has the eye for talent and the ability to develop kids like CP does. Not to mention the fact that instilling that culture at USC will be bucked hard by players and boosters alike. USC traditionally has a flashy Sark like vibe. We have seen how hard it was to change that culture here. Imagine how much harder that would be at USC. But I still take the Trojans over the Hurricanes. Too many built in advantages long term to overlook.

USC has historically, sans Pete Carroll, taken the Chris Peterson approach: Talent; check. Pedigree; check. Disappoint; check.

AlCzervik

Tequilla said:

Given current coaching ... I'd say Mismi has the better chance at getting close to elite again (won't happen under Richt until he leaves) ...

As for USC, I'm hearing that the upcoming edition of the TSIO podcast will have a few thoughts on Clay Helton

You're source is the TSIO podcast?

MisterEm

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

Ice_Holmvik said:

Oh and whoever wrote that shit is worse than Derek at proof reading. I've seen WSU posters have less grammatical errors.

*fewer

But still...it's hard.

GreenRiverGatorz

Unless the city gets its coke culture back, Miami will never return to glory.

Ice_Holmvik

DerekJohnson said:

Ice_Holmvik said:

Oh and whoever wrote that shit is worse than Derek at proof reading. I've seen WSU posters have less grammatical errors.

What are you talking about?

I'd rather you just told me to fuck off than come at me like that.

Ice_Holmvik

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TierbsHsotBoobs said:

Alabama

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Southerndawg

Ice_Holmvik said:

USC

It may not be under Helton but USC is generally a recruiting juggernaut. Miami has stadium, location and facility issues and no $$$ for an immediate fix. Helton appears to be taking a Chris Petersen approach at USC. Hard to tell if he has the eye for talent and the ability to develop kids like CP does. Not to mention the fact that instilling that culture at USC will be bucked hard by players and boosters alike. USC traditionally has a flashy Sark like vibe. We have seen how hard it was to change that culture here. Imagine how much harder that would be at USC. But I still take the Trojans over the Hurricanes. Too many built in advantages long term to overlook.

Miami has never relied on stadium or facilities, it's been all about coaching, recruiting the nastiest players South Florida can produce and mixing in a decent college quarterback. Richt knows how to recruit that area, and he's a hell of a lot more proven than Helton, who's been coaching under two of the biggest douche bags to ever coach at USC. Just my 0.02, but I think Miami will get back on track before USC will.

dnc

bananasnblondes said:

A better question would be, "Who fires their coach first? USC or Miami?"

It's probably the same thing. First one to fire the head moron in charge = first one with a shot to return to glory.